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Alcor nitrogen shipper project

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Alcor nitrogen shipper project

If the study shows that such a project is feasible, this would definitely be the way forward. Shipping capabilities for patients already cryopreserved would enable cryonics institutions to set up cryopreservation posts in areas where there are enough members to support such a move, e.g. in the UK maybe. This would effectively globalize the acute care phase of cryopreservation, while keeping the chronic, long-term care centralized. Such a globalization of cryopreservation posts would dramatically decrease ischaemic time after legal death for international members (at the moment, patients in e.g. the UK has to be flown to the US for cryopreservation after legal death). I would definitely like to see this happening!

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject:

I recall hearing about this project a while ago and it is one of many reasons why my confidence in Alcor is very high. I was having doubts about being shipped across the atlantic on water ice.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject:

Actually having a nitrogen shipper would only be the start of the sort of change you'd want to see. Local cryopreservation theaters would still have to be built and furnished with equipment. Local people will have to be trained in doing the cryopreservation procedure. All this need to be maintained. Only then would you be able to have someone cryopreserved in e.g. the UK, and then transported by air in a nitrogen shipper for longterm cryo-storage at Alcor.

Still, at least Alcor is starting to move in that direction.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject:

That is the idea. A shipper is a necessary, but not sufficient condition for local capability. But much as the US Army prepositions equipment and then just sends the troops as needed, I think minimal cryonics facilities can be built and staffed as needed. A long range goal that will take many years, but we need to take the first steps sometime.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject:

I recently read about the two above-named local cryopreservation facilities. Do they still exist?

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject:

Unfortunately no - Alan was unable to afford to maintain them longterm. He now holds the standby training sessions from his home (which when I can arrange the transport I will be attending).

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